Rules Questions Thread 2.0

Rules Questions Thread 2.0
8/11/2008 11:56:19 PM

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Well it seems that the rules thread pulled a vanishing act on us, so in its honor: Rules question thread 2.0 Ask away

Alright, nearly 2 pages of questions on progenetius in the rules thread has spurred me to post this. I ask grimmer and everyone else not to answer any more questions about protection from everything.

Here are the 4 things you need to know about protection from everything.

1) Progenetius cannot be targeted by spells or abilities. That means if the spell says TARGET creature or permenant it can't choose progenetius. If it never mentions target creature or permenant your golden (re: wrath of god kills him)

2) Progenetius is unblockable. Period.

3) All damage to progenetius is prevented. If you pyroclasm for example, you do not pass go, you do not collect 200 dollars and you do not deal 2 points of damage to progenetius.

4) Progeneius cannot be equipped or enchanted. If you have some way to move an enchantment or equipment to progenetius without targeting him you can but it will fall off as a state based effect. An enchanment would go to the yard and an equipment would just sit there and laugh at you for being an idiot.

Thats it, unless you have a specific question about the way protection from everything interacts in unique situations STOP ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.

For the love of god, someone sticky this, if I see one more question about protection from everything Im going to off myself. Comment on my Mono B rogues and my G/B combo decks please ;D

1/3/2009 11:13:00 PM

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Sanctioned block tournies only really happen while that block is the most recent. Lor/moor block tournies are gonna be phased out for shards tournies in time. Comment on my Mono B rogues and my G/B combo decks please ;D

1/4/2009 9:28:00 AM

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hey on cards like stillmoon cavalier(cant spell) if you pay one black mana can you use multiple effects like flying and +1/+0 (or whatever the specs are) or do you have to pay them individually. "Step by step we try controlling our fate. Once we finally start living, it's become to late. Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octa-vari-ummmmmmmm!"

1/4/2009 9:34:00 AM

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Err?
If you pay 2 mana to play a Grizzly Bears, can you use the same mana to play another Grizzly Bears? This is the same thing ;) Moo.

1/4/2009 9:38:00 AM

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no this is special abilities. Like stillmoon cav. is a 2/1 that costs three to play...what i am asking is if you pay one mana to activate the card to get flying until end of turn can you use that same mana to play getting first strike until end of turn(i wasnt looking at the card until now)? I don't think thats the case but someone tried to pull that on me before with a different card and I said you have to pay 1 mana for each ability you want to trigger.this is all on the same turn. "Step by step we try controlling our fate. Once we finally start living, it's become to late. Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octa-vari-ummmmmmmm!"

1/4/2009 9:39:00 AM

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well that would be wrong, each mana goes to one ability

1/4/2009 10:33:00 AM

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ok so I was right then...good "Step by step we try controlling our fate. Once we finally start living, it's become to late. Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octa-vari-ummmmmmmm!"

1/5/2009 2:28:00 PM

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how does ajani goldmane work...with those -6, -1 things "Step by step we try controlling our fate. Once we finally start living, it's become to late. Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octa-vari-ummmmmmmm!"

1/5/2009 2:57:00 PM

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Planeswalkers enter play with a number of loyalty counters equal to the number in the bottom right corner (4 for Ajani Goldmane). During your main phase when the stack is empty you may use a Planeswalker's activated ability, but you may only use one ability per turn. For Ajani Goldmane, you could add 1 loyalty counter to gain 2 life... or you could remove a loyalty counter to give all creatures you control a permanent +1/+1 counter as well as vigilance until the end of turn... or you could remove 6 counters to (essentially) put a Serra Avatar token into play. I killed your cat! (Why?) I felt it would bring closure to our relationship!

1/5/2009 3:04:00 PM

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wow...thats weird "Step by step we try controlling our fate. Once we finally start living, it's become to late. Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octavarium! Trapped inside this Octa-vari-ummmmmmmm!"

1/8/2009 8:01:00 AM

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1/8/2009 9:25:00 AM

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I have a question about the makings of a "type". Please forgive my ignorance, i've only been playing for a couple of years now...

what makes a card type 2 over type 1/1.5 or standard or any of the other ones? (>^.^)>So long Iron Chef, you will be missed! IRON CHEF challenges: Mudhole, Cerebral Vortex, Mist of Stagnation, Ice Cave, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar, Homarid Spawning Bed...Record: 4-2<(^.^<)

1/8/2009 9:58:00 AM

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Only the past three sets and last core set are type 2 legal, in this case that's shadowmoor lorwyn shards of alara and tenth edition, in this case tho shadowmoor and lorwyn both will leave standard at the same time as far as I know, but I've been playing less than even u

1/8/2009 10:08:00 AM

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so is that the way type 2 is, is the newest stuff out? that kinda makes sense, i guess. how do they determine where they go after that? (>^.^)>So long Iron Chef, you will be missed! IRON CHEF challenges: Mudhole, Cerebral Vortex, Mist of Stagnation, Ice Cave, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar, Homarid Spawning Bed...Record: 4-2<(^.^<)

1/8/2009 10:18:00 AM

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Look at the previous page:)
Standard is the two most recent Blocks, and the most recent Coreset(In this case, Lorwyn-Mor/Shadowmoor-Eve is one block, while the other block is Shards of Alara(+ the upcomming Conflux and Alara Reborn) Moo.

1/8/2009 10:22:00 AM

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does that mean coldsnap was part of time spiral?

1/8/2009 11:05:00 AM

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No, Coldsnap is a part of Ice Age. Moo.

1/8/2009 11:06:00 AM

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then y was it until recently type two legal?

1/8/2009 11:35:00 AM

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I think it is because it isn't an entire block - just an expansion, so tehy just kindof jammed it in with Timespiral. Don't know for sure. Moo.

1/8/2009 12:08:00 PM

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Correct. It rotated along with the Time Spiral block, but it was considered part of the Ice Age block. My friend claims that it was part of WotC's attempt to pretend Homelands was never printed. I killed your cat! (Why?) I felt it would bring closure to our relationship!

1/8/2009 1:48:00 PM

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@EIIE:

thanks. lol i guess a little reading would do some good. thanks though. (>^.^)>So long Iron Chef, you will be missed! IRON CHEF challenges: Mudhole, Cerebral Vortex, Mist of Stagnation, Ice Cave, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar, Homarid Spawning Bed...Record: 4-2<(^.^<)

1/8/2009 9:07:00 PM

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Umm...
well, this isn't as much a rules question so much as a "WTF?!?" question...

So, WHY is there even "Steamflogger Boss"???
It is the only creature with the words "assemble", "contraption", and the only other creature with the sub-type "rigger" is someone totally not related... so WHY??? Please view my decks! ~*~\<^>/~*~ http://www.mtgfanatic.com/Decks/?MemberID=66659 ~*~/<^>\~*~ Any/All comments are greatly appriciated! ~*~\<^>/~*~ I will return the favor! ~*~/<^>\~*~

1/8/2009 9:12:00 PM

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it's a futuresight card, maybe it will be a mechanic in a later set or maybe it will be an un- card

1/8/2009 9:21:00 PM

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If I remember correctly Wizards said Steamflogger Boss was some kind of joke. They don't plan on printing anything that's a contraption or whatever nonsense is on that card, regardless of how cool it would be. My magic blog: http://theundergroundsea.blogspot.com/

1/8/2009 9:27:00 PM

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Well, if it IS a joke, it shouldn't take up a RARE spot in my stuff if it is basically useless... >:( Please view my decks! ~*~\<^>/~*~ http://www.mtgfanatic.com/Decks/?MemberID=66659 ~*~/<^>\~*~ Any/All comments are greatly appriciated! ~*~\<^>/~*~ I will return the favor! ~*~/<^>\~*~

1/8/2009 9:28:00 PM

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makes sense huh, haha I feel like an idiot, I always thought they may just make somethin later, looks like changelings could have fun with his first ability tho