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4/2/2012

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Several days ago, I read a post titled "Convoluted Forums". Basically, the user was stating that too many sub-forums were difficult to navigate with the setup and recommended that I reduce the number of sub forums to produce greater user interaction. I agree to an extent, but I also like organization.

The reason that I designed the forums like this was originally due to many user complaints about people not posting in the proper sub-categories. For the users that have been with us for several years, you proably remember how the forums used to work. When you clicked on a forum, you would see all of the threads in that forum PLUS all of the threads from any sub-forums. So you can see why people did not feel the need to categorize their thread properly.

However, theere have been numerous significant changes in the past several years that make me feel more comfortable about going to a hybrid version of the previous forums combined with the new format. Clicking on a Froum will now show all threads from the selected forum as well as the sub forums. However, under the title of each thread, you will also see the full path of the thread so you can see if the threads was posted in a sub-forum. Basically, clicking on a forum filters the results. If you want to be more specific, just click on a sub-forum.

I still expect users to attempt to locate the appropriate sub-forum when necessary. Failure to follow the rules of the forum when it cmes to posting in the appropriate location will result in the subtraction of FRPs.

As always, please leave your feedback here. I hope this will address both the need for categorization as well as the promotion of user interaction by making it easier to locate intertesting threads. I look forward to your thoughts emoticon

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I saw that we can view previous threads we've already posted in "Followed Threads." That will come in handy. Unless I'm blind and that was already there before haha.
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Nope, I just added that last night emoticon How do you feel about the changes mentioned in the OP?
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That will help. We will be able to see the last thread without entering every subforum. emoticon

Thanks Chris for the updates this week. emoticon

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Something have changed on referral links? Seems like I don't get points from the links for some days... Maybe they are not clickig anymore. :P

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I myself agree i am a huge fan of organization, i dont mine the way the forums are set up, there are a few things that could be tweaked but nothing so far as to change them from they way they are set up
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Something have changed on referral links? Seems like I don't get points from the links for some days... Maybe they are not clickig anymore. :P

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As a quick response, there has been significant levels of abuse in regards to the referral link portion of the FRP system which has been damaging our site's SEO as well costing us thousands of dollars of revenue so we have been forced to remove this part of the FRP system. You can thank the people that have abused it emoticon These changes were posted to the FRP System thread several days ago. However, this is not the appropriate place to discuss this, please begin a new thread or find an existing thread about the program to continue this discussion.
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Nope, I just added that last night emoticon How do you feel about the changes mentioned in the OP?
The changes are really nice. It feels good to wander the forums without having to click everywhere.
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It all sounds good to me Chris, although I never had an issue finding stuff in the past, as I generally remembered the Sub Forums, etc anyway.

I might add that the recent changes i have seen though have been excellent and I for one appreciate all your efforts.

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Something have changed on referral links? Seems like I don't get points from the links for some days... Maybe they are not clickig anymore. :P

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As a quick response, there has been significant levels of abuse in regards to the referral link portion of the FRP system which has been damaging our site's SEO as well costing us thousands of dollars of revenue so we have been forced to remove this part of the FRP system. You can thank the people that have abused it emoticon These changes were posted to the FRP System thread several days ago. However, this is not the appropriate place to discuss this, please begin a new thread or find an existing thread about the program to continue this discussion.


That's sad news. I don't have anything to say about this. So, no need for another thread. I just wish nightmares for those who ruined the program. Thank you Chris for let us have the opportunity.I understand you, you need to protect your business.

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As I have said before with each update the site gets better and better and is a lot different from when I first joined.
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Nice.. Chris, the updates and changes are good stuff. I was REALLY HAPPY to see the "Followed Threads" link on the drop down menu. That, my friend, rocked my socks. I've had trouble finding some posts that I replied to as I didn't remember what forum they were in as I only stumbled upon the thread because it was in the new threads list.

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Just reiterating what everyone else has said: great changes, the followed threads part makes things great.

I appreciate your efforts to keep a semblance of the FRP system in place. I'm sure it was tempting to simply scrub the whole deal after finding a lot of abuse. Us long-timers are appreciative that you gave it a second shot.
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Wow. Ask and you shall receive.

It's kinda like Christmas only I didn't get any underwear. Thanks, Chris. Awesome updates.

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I like the 'followed threads' feature and the new forum filters is definitely better then before for promoting activity. But, if I could make a couple minor suggestions.

I think the trading forum needs to be re-organized with the new filters in mind. Previously, everyone would post their binders in the general trade forum. That area got a decent amount of traffic as it was due to this. Now, you see all the subforum posts mixed in with the trade binders.

Also, I still think you should reduce the total number of forums slightly. For example, when it comes to like 'general' discussion forums, so what if there's a politics thread and a video game thread in the same forum. The thread titles provide the organization in those cases, and it gives greater cross over posting between them having them together. It also makes the main forum page look less overwhelming to a new poster.
Same for things like the Magic online and Magic workstation subforums. Just make an 'Online Magic programs' (or whatever you want to name it) forum.

I'd like to point to MTGSalvation as a comparison. No offense intended, but obviously they are a much larger forum. Barring all the subforums for each format (vintage, legacy, standard etc..) that they have a similar filter to here for and FAQ/Tech support forums to talk to the mods, which adds a lot of forums, we have roughly the same number of forums as them. At the moment I'm writing this, they have 2566 users logged in. Dunno how many are logged in here, but I'd imagine it's not even a tenth that amount.

They didn't get that many forums until they got big enough that each forum required multiple subforums to reduce clutter. Now, a lot of posters hang out in just a certain subsection of their forums (i.e. standard competitive or market street) and hardly post outside of that area. It's like multiple different forums in one.

What I'm saying is, your organization is great, but a bit overkill for the current level of activity on the forum. The less there is, the more often people post in a given forum, which is more likely to give an impression of a larger community, which in turn fosters more people to stick around, which promotes growth.. emoticon

Another example, from a MMORPG forum who's owner/moderator hosts mtgsalvation as well, is www.fohguild.org/forums. They have 1971 users logged on at the moment, and maybe 18 total forums. If you go to their general forum http://www.fohguild.org/forums/general/ you'll see there is threads of all kinds in there, and 10 of the threads have multiple posts within the last few hours. If I'm going there to read the magic thread, I might notice a thread title that catches my eye that I wouldn't have otherwise seen if it was in a different subforum.

I don't mean to harp on this, the recent changes are definitely great, but I've been involved with quite a few forums over the years, created some, moderated others.. and it's a very common concept for the successful forums. They start off with less forums funneling everyone together and only add subforums when absolutely necessary because a main one just has too much going on.
I want to see your site continue to grow and see a way I can offer a suggestion that will do so, that's all.
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